Being in Zappa´s Universe
The rehearsal time that we got for Zappa´s Universe was one week
(5 days) in Joe´s Garage, L.A. with "The Rocking Teenage Combo"
- which was Scott Thunes, Mike Keneally, me and Mats. Then in New
York, we got another 5 days with the full Orchestra of Our Time,
all the guests; Persuations, Denny Walley, Dale Bozzio a.o.
Here are a couple of things I particularily remember :
First day in Joe´s Garage me and Mats got there first. We set
up our equipment and were ready to go maybe 30 min before the
actual rehearsal, so we decided to go out and wait for the other
ones to come. We bought something to drink and sat down on the
sidewalk. A car went by, somebody stepped out, big guy with long
hair, sideburns, sunglasses etc. He opened the trunk and picked
out what looked like a bass, and I realized it was Scott Thunes
!
I guess you all have heard a million stories about the man, about
his personality, him breaking up the 88 tour etc. etc. I had never
met Scott before. We had been on stage together May 1st 1988,
when we guested Franks last tour, but we never met after the show.
Anyhow, I guess we would soon know more about him. Scott locked
his car and marched up to Mats and me. I told Mats that Scott
was there, and Mats totally lightened up! ( Mats is blind, in
case you didn’t know. )
When Scott was facing us, he says - " greetings ! ",
and we shock hands. Mats says: - " nice to be here ! "
Scott reply was:
- " well, I’m not sure about that, that we gonna find out
later… It´s to hot outside, I got to go inside, see you…"
I looked at Mats with my mouth open, as we started to imagine
the attitude of the next two weeks.
Mike arrived, and when they were ready to play, Mike says "first
side on You are what you is " and the next second he
counts 1,2,3,4 and
we´re off ! And it sounded GREAT ! We just ripped it , loud
and intense.
I could see that Scott liked the way it sounded .
-" But if we wouldn´t have known how to execute all of
the 45 songs on the list,...it wouldn´t have been nice to
be there" as Mats said on the sidewalk I guess that was Scott´s
point… But after the three songs Society Pages, I’m a
Beautiful Guy & Beauty Knows No Pain in segue, Scott
put down his bass on the floor, threw his pick up in the air and
said: "GREAT, this is good,- now we won´t have to rehearse
this shit for the whole week, we can go down to the beach and enjoy
ourselfs instead ! "
Suddenly everything was just great, It WAS nice to be there, even
for Scott! So, my first impression of Scott Thunes was him being
an entertaining character, that turned very sweat to Mats and me.
His mood did swings sometimes, but I liked him a lot, and we came
along very well I have to say. I have not seen Scott since –93,
but I actually sent him an e-mail recently, which he replied, and
I wish I could see him soon again.
He was very funny too. One time when we rehearsed with the Orchestra
Of Our Time in N.Y., Mats pedal to his electric grand piano
broke and fell apart. Scott saw that, put down his bass and walked
over to Mats and was standing on all four under the piano fixing
the pedal. Conductor Joel Thome started to conduct as he noticed
Scott was gone. And when Joel found Scott under Mats piano, fixing
the pedal with some tape, he said: " what are you doing ?"
And Scott said (in a loud voice) : " I´m taping Mats
penis to his leg! "

The people in the orchestra started to laugh off course; the whole
situation was really hillarious, with the proper dressed violinplayers
and all ! It just wasn’t what most people expected to hear in that
situation I think, but it was very funny. Very Scott .
He could say things when you expected it the least. Another time
while rehearsing at Joe’s Garage, a pretty young girl walked in
to listen to our rehearsal, and when Scott saw her, he just said
(in a loud voice again)
" You can´t have him, he’s married !" Meaning ME
! (-was married at the time) I don´t even know if Scott knew the
girl, not necessarily I guess.
I miss Scott, AND the girl… - just kidding !
Frank came down the second day!
We were just having a break, and I saw a car coming with Dweezil
behind the wheel and… yes, Frank was sitting next to him. They
both came in and Frank said hello, how are you etc. and continued
with a big smile: "so let me see what you can do now…"
We went into the rehearsal room, Frank sat down on a couch, lightened
a cigarette, legs crossed and said "can you play Marqueeson´s
Chicken ? ", wich got me confused, because that song
wasn’t on the list as far as I remember, but Frank wanted to hear
it, so we’d better give it a try !
Next song Frank wanted to hear wasn’t on the list either… as well
as the next and next and next.... He just wanted to see what we
really knew from his repertoire. We did really fine though. Mats
knows more material than anyone on the planet, believe me. Mike
knows a lot too for sure, as well as Scott. So, we basically played
everything he wanted. Then Frank said:
" What about Tink Walks Amok ?… lets hear it with just
Mats & Morgan ! " That one worked fine as well (Mats played
the bassline on the keyboards). Everything went just great, lucky
us !
Later the same day, when we went to Franks house. Me and Mats
sat down on a couch, Frank came in and sat down too, and said: "This
was one of the nicest afternoons I had in a long time ! " We
were in Nirvana.
Later
that night Mats completely amazed everyone even more. We went
down in Franks studio and Mats got to play the Bösendorfer grand.
Frank asked Mats to play another 10 songs, amongst others Sleep
Dirt (which is mosty a guitar solo !) but Mats just played
it, and Frank said: "well, I didn’t know you could do that
that one." He was really impressed. Then Mats overdubbed a piece
on the Synclavier. Frank loaded something that sounded like Civilization
phase lll, and then he wanted Mats to improvise on top. Frank
stored the improvisation in the Synclavier entitled Mats.
After that Frank started to sing Evelyn as Mats backed
him up on the Synclavier with a Gamelan Orchestra sound ! It was
so nice, and Frank was in such a good mood, as well as we of course.
How we managed to destroy the Black Page
A less exciting thing happened when our conductor Joel Thoume
showed up at the rehearsal with Frank. We tried a couple of things.
Frank wanted to hear Black Page #1, but just before we started
to play Frank said:
"play it with conducting ".
Now, Joel did not have the score, and didn´t really remember the
song I think, because his stick went all over the place and it was
just impossible to follow him, or for him to follow us. It sounded
incredible horrible. We played it the day before and it sounded
just fine, but now after finishing our horrible version the room
went dead silence. Frank was not too impressed, believe me.
But the worst thing was that neither Mike or Scott said anything
about it.
I mean we played it the day before, why didn’t they say something?
It was just a conducting problem, but - just silence. I didn’t feel
that I had the position to stand up behind the drums and
bla bla bla, when Scott is not even talking. Scott had played the
song with Frank for some ten years, and Mike on one tour so, it
was obviously to me that me and Mats would take the rap for it..
I wasn´t gonna take that, so I just said: " It was because
of the conducting !"
Another five seconds of silence, then Frank finally said: "
okay, play it without conducting " So we did, and we nailed
it, so that was a big relief ! A nice happening was when we played
Ya Hozna. Frank had heard about Mats abillity to sing and
talk backwards. Mats did the backwars parts and Frank laughed his
ass off ! When the rehearsal was over Frank got to hear Mats imitate
WildMan Fisher as well and Frank said to Mats:
- " you´re wasting your time in Sweden..."

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